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Why Hudud Laws are unsuitable

Post by Rifdee on 2008-12-23, 19:54

Published: thestar online, Tuesday December 23, 2008 MYT 8:29:00 PM

DAP outlines objections to PAS plan for hudud laws

PETALING JAYA: The statement by Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat that PAS would implement hudud laws did not consider the political reality in the country, Karpal Singh said.

The DAP chairman said Nik Aziz, the PAS spiritual leader, also did not take into account the reasons given by DAP for objecting to the implementation of the laws in a multiracial and multilingual country like Malaysia.

“Nik Aziz has asked for reasons why we are objecting to the move. To start off, the Federal Constitution does not provide for an Islamic state from which introduction of Islamic criminal laws like hudud could follow.

“Next, PAS cannot afford to ignore the five-man unanimous decision of the Supreme Court, the highest court in the land, in 1988 that the country was not an Islamic state but a secular state,” he said in a statement Tuesday.

He noted that it was Tun Salleh Abbas, who was at one time a PAS state exco member in Terengganu, who headed the five-man panel of the Supreme Court that had made that judicial pronouncement.

“The Federal Constitution is a sacred document which must be accepted and respected by everyone, including PAS.

“Its leaders, including Nik Aziz, should not defy and continuously be in contempt of it when insisting on the implementation of hudud laws in the country.

“It is wrong for PAS, for political expediency, to crave what is clearly against national interests,” he added.

Karpal said PAS should also be careful not to scuttle the smooth running of the Pakatan Rakyat alliance and reminded the party that threatening to go ahead with its plan would be counter-productive to its interests.

He also urged PKR de facto leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim to speak up on the issue.

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Re: Why Hudud Laws are unsuitable

Post by silver16v on 2008-12-24, 07:16

Masalahnya kita skrg ialah disebabkan org Islam sendiri kurang 'Islam' dalam kehidupan. Tiada contoh yg baik atau nilai Islam sebenar dpt dilihat oleh yg bukan Islam pada masyarakat Islam skrg. Lebih memburukkan keadaan serangan media barat terhadap imej negative rekaan mereka tentang Islam. Saya sokong hukum hudud utk menggantikan hukum syariah yg digunapakai sekarang. Buat permulaan gunakan utk org Islam sahaja. So non-muslim x patut risau sbb diorg still subject to common law (british system).

Ini ada 1 komen dari pembaca MalaysiaToday yg saya kira relavant;
Source : http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/16250/84/

written by Loi Bih Siang Benjamin, December 22, 2008 14:00:54
dear Pete:
u don't understand the Chinese fear:
1. The fear of not being allowed to "drink and get drunk"
2. The fear of not being allowed to "patronize nite club and brothel"
3. THe fear of not being allowed to "gamble till the family is completely broken"
4. THe fear of not being allowed to "kiss and hug" in public
5. The fear of not being allowed to "buy porn VCD" in malaysia
6. THe fear of not being allowed to "to commit adultery"
7. The fear of not being allowed to "wear bikini and sexy clothes"
8. The fear of seeing too many handicapped in Malaysia as many arms chopped off, many legs lopped off!!!

I am a Chinese Christian and voted for PAS for many reasons:
1. I wrote to our government (not reply yet) and challenged UMNO to close down GENTING, 4D, TOTO, Magnum and horse-racing. The Unislamic government of Umno is using gambling to suck Chinese money to fatten the "FEW"...PAS is good and wants to help Chinese by promising to "stop" gambling in Malaysia. Chinese are stupid and keep on giving $ to Umno for "gambling" opportunities in Malaysia.
2. Stop selling liquor and alchohol, go ahead and implement it lest Chinese and Indian brains get destroyed by beer, wine and liquor!!! PAS loves us by having a more stringent criteria of selling alchohol...the more u drink, the more stupid u become and the younger u die!
3. We don't need night club and brothel.
4. It is good that we have hudud law to be first implemented on our cabinet ministers and civil servants, i have written to PAS to first implement it on civil servants, no reply yet.(chop off their hand before ours).

orang cina, bodoh lah...

Pihak yang memerintah skrg kalau dijalankan hukum hudud, ramai lar mereka termasuk anak-beranak, saudara-mara dan sahabat2 mereka akan kena potong tangan sbb mencuri duit rakyat.. sbb tu diorg oppose hukum hudud...

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Re: Why Hudud Laws are unsuitable

Post by Rifdee on 2008-12-24, 17:57

I see your points (and aspirations) silver16v but is it that simple though?

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Re: Why Hudud Laws are unsuitable

Post by Racing_Camel on 2009-01-02, 06:00

I believe it's that simple. Arab Saudi dan Qatar sendiri menggunakan sistem hudud. Di Qatar contohnya, beberapa hari lepas, ada satu berita yang menjelaskan hukum Islam yang adil, walaupun ia melibatkan sesama Islam sendiri.

Kalau di Qatar yang mempunyai population expatriates termasuklah westerns yang begitu ramai tapi tidak ada masalah dari segi pelaksanaan, jadi, Insya-Allah, sekiranya Malaysia mempunyai pendirian yang begitu teguh untuk menegakkan hukum Allah di atas muka bumi ini (lagi pun, Malaysia sebuah negara Islam dan seharusnya mempunyai integrity and dignity sebagai sebuah negara Islam yang bersih), Malaysia boleh melaksanakannya.

Sebagai khalifah Islam di atas muka bumi ini, marilah kita bersama2 menegakkan hukum Islam dan membawa syiar2 Islam ke seluruh dunia.

Insya-Allah, dengan usaha2 kita untuk membawa negara kita mengikuti jalanNya, negara Malaysia akan lebih diberkati dan diredhainya olehNya. marilah kita sama2 berusaha untuk menerangkan mengenai faedah pelaksanaan hukum hudud, bukan hanya kepada orang2 Islam sahaja tetapi termasuk juga kepada non-Muslims. Insya-Allah, jika kita semua memahami hukum hudud, kita akan mendapati ia sangat berfaedah samada untuk orang2 Islam mau pun untuk bukan Islam. Kita boleh lihat sendiri keadaan negara Arab Saudi dan Qatar.

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Re: Why Hudud Laws are unsuitable

Post by Wak on 2009-01-11, 12:35

Hukum Hudud bagus...tetapi sekiranya hendak dilaksanakan...next election..tengok siapa yang menang...

Kita mesti juga ber ingat..corruption berlaku disetiap muka bumi...bukan ditempat kita saja...

Sekarang ni Wak bersyukur ngan apa yang negara kita ada...rakyat tak la bersidai di mana-mana..kerja ada..rezeki ada...

Kita semua manusia...ada kekuatan dan ada kelemahan... tapi bila masuk topic kuasa dan wang, biasanya kita manusia terus berubah dan kadang-kadang berpura-pura... sebagai contoh..silap guna kuasa... kalau kita perhati bunyi siren kenderaan di jalan raya yang jam ......suruh kita ke tepi..beri mika lalu..sebenarya bukan semuanya ada emergency yang depa dok kejar..cuma sebab mika sakit perut...nak gi bilik air...

Semoga .. .pada tahun 2009 ni....negara kita terus dilimpah rahmat....anak-anak ..cucu-cucu kita selamat.. di masa akan datang....


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Re: Why Hudud Laws are unsuitable

Post by kutu_beramboi on 2009-01-15, 10:30

ketaatan kepada hukum-hukum allah swt. sebenarnya terserah kepada diri sendiri. bukan ke nak 1,000 daya dan tak nak 1,000 dalih ? semoga kita dapat taat.

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